Openvatar, the new kid in the block.

February 17, 2008

We have old Gravatar, hAvatar, pAvatar (discussed here) and now we have Openvatar.

This last one is based on OpenID, but uses email as the identifier… This makes no sense!(Read comments) and is centralized! OpenID is all about using your own URL as you main identity (although email seems possible too) so you should fetch your avatar based on your URL. Both pAvatar and hAvatar do that correctly, but hAvatar uses another piece of technology I love (and makes all sense together with OpenID) that are the microformats (hCard in this case).

So I’d like all this not-that-good solutions to stop coming, and that we all focus on adopting the one that makes sense to the majority of people.

Tagged with: en, microformats, openID, standards
This post has 6 comments. Feel free to read them and leave your own.
Hi, I am the Openvatar developer.
You says: "This last one is based on OpenID, but uses email as the identifier… This makes no sense!"

Openvatar does NOT uses the mail as the identifier, Openvatar uses Openid URL as the identifier.

Greetings.
The Openvatar team.
Quoting from openvatar.com/help:

It's value is the hexadecimal MD5 hash of the requested user's email address with all whitespace trimmed.


I am confused now...

And what makes Openvatar better than hAvatar? I was wondering that :)
You are right, that text have an error. It's fixed.

I think Openvatar is more simple for users beginners. Like Gravatar, register and upload avatar. It's all.

Openvatar is another centralized avatar system :-)
I see that you use the same system as Gravatar. First I don't see the point in using MD5 hash. It's not that the URL is not reachable... So there is no point in encrypting it, I guess (I might be wrong here).

Second I don't like the centralized word there. OpenID is supposed to be decentralized. That's what I don't like in gravatar. If gravatar.com goes down, everybody looses their avatar system. I see pAvatar and hAvatar as a better choice, being decentralized and "inside" your openID, no your are the owner of that Avatar (or you trust who owns it).

And I don't believe it's more simple for beginners. since all they want is a wordpress plugin, or another integration with the system they use. That way, they don't have to bother with it, and if OpenID providers provide an hCard (or pAvatar support) there is no trouble for the user.

Take a look at Four Starter's hAvatar Wordpress plugin at http://fourstarters.com/2008/02/09/havatar-updated-version-03/

That's a excellent way of doing decentralized avatar without any upload from user needs.
Only one thing. If your Openid provider (server) goes down, You can not login anywhere.
@OpenAvatar: if ONE of my openid servers goes down, I still have 2 others in the same relation.
Even my URL used on the openid login is set on two diferent webhosting providers.

That should keep me able to login just about anywhere anytime!

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